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What "system" does the NFL/PFRA people use to recognize historic passing leaders? The rating system that was in use as that time, or applying the current rating system to past seasons?

Missed this thread the first time around. Evan's descriptions are spot on, including his referee spots. When I think of "cool", I think of someone who either makes things look effortless or exudes an attitude of not giving a damn. Here are a few guys on my team, many of whom have already b...

The Raiders defeated the Niners 42-28 in their 1969 preseason encounter, FWIW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9Z2M1TbuNw

Found this clip on youtube. I hadn't seen many of the Rams highlights for Matson.

In response, although he was body-slammed by Lambert, I believe that Cliff Harris was a very good safety and should be in the HOF. Roger Wehrli is in, so why not Cliff Harris? In Wehrli's defense, he had guys like Ron Yankowski and Council Rudolph providing the pass rush for him, while Cliff Harris...

He's one of literally only a handful of backs I can think of who, when he broke into the open, you absolutely knew he was gone. Really maybe only Bo Jackson was like that. He routinely outran defenders who had angles on him. There were a handful of similar guys - why weren't they used more - from t...

Big, fast, skilled...a lot to like about Ollie Matson. I've been reading TJ Troup's book about the 1950's, and the chapter on the 1954 Cards was interesting. The Cardinals were terrible, Matson was great, but he wasn't really their #1 RB. He had 5 less carries than FB Johnny Olszewski, even though M...

I don't think Curtis was a better MLB than Lambert. In some respects, I think Lambert is underrated. His best years were after the heydey of the Steel Curtain, yet one perception is that Lambert was a product of Joe Greene's and Ernie Holmes' greatness. Watching Lambert play, his best quality IMO wa...

If we eliminate the Lions, I think a 1952 title game between the Browns and Rams would have been interesting. Third consecutive title game matchup, with the previous two games being very good in quality. 4th consecutive title game for the Rams and 8th consecutive title game for the Browns. The Brown...

King Kong wrote:I'm thinking Dave Kocourek was probably the 2nd team tight end.

Correct!

I thought Alvin Reed or Willie Frazier. Kocourek was pretty consistent and had a monster year in the early part of the decade. I was surprised at how good his numbers looked, as well as the length of his career.