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by JohnTurney
Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:23 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Fletcher Cox, just the numbers
Replies: 1
Views: 1637

Fletcher Cox, just the numbers

no grades, pressures, double teams, "eye-test" someone asked about HOF --- Kevin Williams cannot get any notice ... IMO, throwing in eye test, Cox was better than some of these guys ... a couple of them were 3-techs for the most part. Cox and Suh and Williams were more than just rushers/pe...
by JohnTurney
Sun Mar 10, 2024 4:35 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: punting career of Bill Bradley
Replies: 4
Views: 9095

Re: punting career of Bill Bradley

I'm watching old GOTW highlights, and I am seeing various punts by Bill Bradley for the first time. Some of his punts are incredible....the highest, weirdest-spinning punts I've ever seen. But looking at his career, he was very inconsistent from year to year and didn't even punt in some years. Does...
by JohnTurney
Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:05 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Jason Kelce
Replies: 10
Views: 15129

Re: Jason Kelce

Canton First Ballot, or not? I think he will. I don't think past precedent means it is a fait accompli that he won't be, i.e. Mike Webster wasn't so Kelce won't and so on. Voters will see his All-Pros, his body of work in terms of being about to get out and block (eye test) plus his value in changi...
by JohnTurney
Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:22 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: More fodder. . .
Replies: 24
Views: 20998

Re: More fodder. . .

"Eliminating the pocket requirement might help quarterbacks avoid the types of hits that produce injuries." I don't think that's true. It seemed to me that they called intentional ground more last year than any time in the last decade or so (which means like once every two games, but stil...
by JohnTurney
Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:42 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Centennial Class cutdown
Replies: 3
Views: 5437

Re: Centennial Class cutdown

Your not going to believe what I found out I found out who was cut when the Blue Ribbon Panel met to elect the Centennial Class Lavvie Dilweg Ox Emerson Cecil Isbell Verne Lewellen and Al Wistert were cut during the reduction to 15 finalists Cliff Branch Roger Craig Randy Gradishar Tommy Nobis and ...
by JohnTurney
Sun Feb 25, 2024 6:39 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: John Hadl to Packers in 1973?
Replies: 6
Views: 2964

Re: John Hadl to Packers in 1973?

It indicates that Hadl was being shopped around, considering that it was just a couple weeks later that he was sent to L.A. I don't doubt that the Packers were at least contacted. Yes ... Hadl wanted out, wanted to go to a winner, said he though he had six or so years left. Bears asked about him. P...
by JohnTurney
Sun Feb 25, 2024 6:22 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: John Hadl to Packers in 1973?
Replies: 6
Views: 2964

Re: After Hadl to Rams

JohnTurney wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:39 pm Gabriel wanted a trade ---- wanted Washington ... Allen interested but they didn't have what Eagles had in terms of draft capital
realized forgot the first part or accidentally deleted it ... Gabriel wanted that after Rams acquired Hadl
by JohnTurney
Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:39 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: John Hadl to Packers in 1973?
Replies: 6
Views: 2964

After Hadl to Rams

Gabriel wanted a trade ---- wanted Washington ... Allen interested but they didn't have what Eagles had in terms of draft capital
by JohnTurney
Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:23 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Gradishar, Art Powell, Steve McMichael Senior Committee Nomi
Replies: 40
Views: 15459

Re: Gradishar, Art Powell, Steve McMichael Senior Committee Nomi

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Valid points john that's what I was thinking the main reason ap was not selected I'd imagine this hurts gino lionel taylor otis Taylor and Hennigan
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Yeah, that's probably it. And it's fair. If they are talking about 60-62, then sure ... especially those years. It is what it is ..
by JohnTurney
Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:43 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Frankie Albert-The First South Paw Quarterback
Replies: 35
Views: 13497

Re: Frankie Albert-The First South Paw Quarterback

GameBeforeTheMoney wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 11:06 pm Upton has told me this story. He was with his father Bert Bell at the Bears 1946 training camp.
Thanks, appreciate that. Good information. Can focus on that 1946 films .. . narrows it down