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by JohnTurney
Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:04 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Gradishar, Art Powell, Steve McMichael Senior Committee Nomi
Replies: 40
Views: 15389

Re: Gradishar, Art Powell, Steve McMichael Senior Committee Nomi

As I understand it the level of competition for Powell's big seasons was part of reason for rejection people here know but visually it's interesting anyway---there is more overlap that maybe younger voters cared to look up. Maybe 1960-62 ... sure, there is some validity to it ... and beyond but if t...
by JohnTurney
Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:57 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Frankie Albert-The First South Paw Quarterback
Replies: 35
Views: 13478

Re: Frankie Albert-The First South Paw Quarterback

Upton Bell, born in 1937, had to be referring to when CS was official with Bears ... not when he was friends with Halas at Univ of Chi and shared ideas on T But still ... would like to know what he means by "new" that was designed circa 1951+ as per the flanker position 2024-02-21_19-44-31...
by JohnTurney
Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:37 am
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Gradishar, Art Powell, Steve McMichael Senior Committee Nomi
Replies: 40
Views: 15389

Re: Gradishar, Art Powell, Steve McMichael Senior Committee Nomi

In terms of Powell the only thing I can think of is that perhaps voters were not familiar with him the first time that he was up as a senior considering he hasn't played since 1968 and maybe after some more research into him he will get the 80% In a few years. Yes, voters outside senior committee m...
by JohnTurney
Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:30 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Gradishar, Art Powell, Steve McMichael Senior Committee Nomi
Replies: 40
Views: 15389

Re: Gradishar, Art Powell, Steve McMichael Senior Committee Nomi

I also wouldn't have a problem with considering CFL players in the HOVG, but it doesn't seem to have happened yet (Flutie would obviously be the first to get a look). I also thing there can be a caveat for American rules guys that had a stint in CFL and played well as a part of consideration ... su...
by JohnTurney
Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:25 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: NFL's Most Influential Teams
Replies: 35
Views: 9671

Re: NFL's Most Influential Teams

Of course all this is complicated by the fact that there's very little new under the sun and that we often confuse popularizers with inventors as with Zone Blitz (not LeBeau), The Flex (not Landry), The Shotgun (not Hickey), etc. But I think the influential team would be the one that made the schem...
by JohnTurney
Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:59 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Steve McMichael: HOF?
Replies: 49
Views: 24553

Re: Steve McMichael: HOF?

Brian wolf wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:40 pm It really wont matter as much, until the super seniors get their due. If the number remains three, it will help mostly deserving eighties players.
That is my disappointment as well. With 3, there is room for 1 SS ... but they just don't seem like they will budge.
by JohnTurney
Fri Jan 26, 2024 2:16 am
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Steve McMichael: HOF?
Replies: 49
Views: 24553

Re: Steve McMichael: HOF?

rewing84 wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:50 pm John from what ive heard and read it will stay at 3 which is a perfect number
It might -- you could be right -- but I just think it may not last too much longer.
by JohnTurney
Wed Jan 24, 2024 9:29 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Divisional Playoff Weekend
Replies: 44
Views: 9977

Re: Divisional Playoff Weekend

I dont understand the Dolphins. They are letting Fangio walk when the defense is getting better. He will probably go to Philly. Fangio's idea. If he had to stay, if the Dolphins forced some issue, that's not going to work out well. I do think it is odd. His defense had a lot of injuries and has ple...
by JohnTurney
Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:57 am
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Steve McMichael: HOF?
Replies: 49
Views: 24553

Re: Steve McMichael: HOF?

Randy Gradishar presumed inducted Albert Lewis Al Wistert Mike Kenn Joe Jacoby Sterling Sharpe Bob Kuechenberg Clay Matthews Eddie Meador Steve McMichael presumed inducted Maxie Baughan Art Powell presumed inducted Curious to see if any the super seniors ever make final 12 again. These are players ...
by JohnTurney
Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:27 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Rank all Detroit Lions playoff teams, #1 to #18
Replies: 20
Views: 21269

Re: Rank all Detroit Lions playoff teams, #1 to #18

1934, of course, is better than ’35! 11-3 installment of ’62 (who almost swept the Mighty 13-1 Pack)? Perhaps they and ’34 each better than any of the actual League Champions! Glad you mentioned these ---- 1934 was odd, 10-0 then lost final 3 ... one of best defenses ever (point allowed) and even f...