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by JohnTurney
Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:28 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Seniors
Replies: 77
Views: 17260

Re: Seniors

As for Meador and Cromwell, I see what you mean when you imply that Meador would look like a better career on paper as he has two more pro bowls. But Cromwell's accolades (which include three first team all pros in addition to four pro bowls) might be a tad more impressive because he played his ent...
by JohnTurney
Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:06 am
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Baby Ray and Harley Sewell
Replies: 1
Views: 115

Re: Baby Ray and Harley Sewell

Halas Hall wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:41 pm

Buford "Baby" Ray also had an 11 year playing career (all with the Packers). NFL All-Decade Team: 1940s, all-pro first team: 1939, '41, '43, and '44

Has a case for HOF, seems like HOVG is super-strong case
by JohnTurney
Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:44 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 1974 Dallas Cowboys
Replies: 6
Views: 251

Re: 1974 Dallas Cowboys

But in 1974…… what went wrong? Maybe getting old on defense at a few positions, and replacements maybe a year away. Mostly, a rash of turnovers early in games they could have won if they'd taken care of the ball. Had they won a couple of them, rather than losing (could have gone either way) they'd ...
by JohnTurney
Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:09 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 2023 PFRA AWARDS
Replies: 2
Views: 198

Re: 2023 PFRA AWARDS

We are pleased to announce the recipients of the 2023 PFRA Awards. Ralph Hay Award (for lifetime achievement in pro football research and historiography)- Dave Burch for his work with the American Football Association and AFA Hall of Fame Nelson Ross Award (for outstanding achievement in recent pro...
by JohnTurney
Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:06 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: NFL MVP's who didn't deserve to win
Replies: 15
Views: 792

Fouts should have gotten it over Mosely

and he did in the PFWA and NEA polls, so I give him credit for being consensus MVP anyway.
by JohnTurney
Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:55 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 1959 Packers
Replies: 5
Views: 427

Lot's of good quotes, research

in that series. Lots of details I was not aware of ... salaries ... I bet Cliff and John M and Eric G. would like it. Would love to hear their thoughts, but then again, a lot of stuff that was new to me wouldn't be to them. I was aware of Nitschke getting benched ... and they cover that. Nitschke wa...
by JohnTurney
Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:39 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Dumb and Amazing factoids
Replies: 4
Views: 240

Re: Dumb and Amazing factoids

Came across this 'factoid' and found it unbelievable... When Gary Danielson was in college at Purdue, he set a school rushing record with 213 yards in 16 attempts against U of Washington in 1972. My memories of Danielson in the NFL was of a guy who could injure himself dropping back to pass, but I ...
by JohnTurney
Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:36 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Dumb and Amazing factoids
Replies: 4
Views: 240

Re: Dumb and Amazing factoids

Curtis McGriff started 71 NFL games and never recorded a sack, even unofficially --- yes he got lifted on passing downs but you'd think at some point someone passed on first down and LT chased the QN into his defender's arms.
by JohnTurney
Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:43 am
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Seniors
Replies: 77
Views: 17260

Re: Seniors

, Jackson as said up top had the most receptions, receiving yards, and receiving touchdowns in the 1970's can expand that from 1969-81 -- #1 in rec, yds, TDs, 5th in YPC a 13-year span and he has a case and you make it strong. having seen him a lot ... something was lacking, dropped more than you'd...
by JohnTurney
Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:58 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Goal Posts
Replies: 17
Views: 1295

Re: Goal Posts

Might not have been a league wide rule because stadiums were multi-use, the NFL might not have had the resources to put it in league wide. Just a guess. The extension of the goal posts in 1966 was because of the 1965 Western Division Playoff between Green Bay and Baltimore. Jim Tunney was the offic...